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<<I vote for Elpazi>> Would it be considered bad form to say "Only a Prydaen would want to look and smell like a Wookiee?" Mute Reply |
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by someone that turns into part wookie when the moon is just right? Not really. (hehe) ~T Reply |
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"Would it be considered bad form to say "Only a Prydaen would want to look and smell like a Wookiee?"" Remember its not wise to upset a wookie... Reply |
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Wookies? Wrong Universe peoples. Now behave, and stop tweaking each other like that, eh? Chisoni Reply |
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He started it.
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<<Wookies? Wrong Universe peoples. Now behave, and stop tweaking each other like that, eh?>> Pfft, you can draw too many parallels for them ALL to be coincidence. Besides, Veyl is known for his good taste. <<He started it.>> LOL, I did not. I merely umm. Okay, so maybe I did! What of it? Mute Reply |
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<<LOL, I did not. I merely umm. Okay, so maybe I did! What of it?>> hehe Reply |
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"He started it." ROFLMAO. Thats good.. I like that Reply |
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that was beautiful..."he started it"...hehe...i wish i could take credit for that one as for the wrong universe thing...sir robyn brings to mind images of middle-aged english men skipping about with coconuts in their hands...and smelly cat? gimme a break. we just can't call 'em wookies and we're in the clear Jaebom --i still wish i could take credit for the "he started it" remark. that was classic Reply |
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<<i still wish i could take credit for the "he started it" remark. that was classic>> HEHE ~Ternith Reply |
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For what I've seen, Prydaen's Guru or GM or whatever they title themselves as, has be quite generous with the Cats. Now, hows about ya get going with the lil people races. I think Gnomes have it the worst off cause all they can do is kick yer shins. (Don't quote me though.) Secondly, why must all s'kra have slender tails? why must all elves have the same sized pointed ears? Why not has a male s'kra with a thick, strong tail, and a female with the slender tail?*dodges feminists*. And elves, I would think an elf womans ears would be more petite than a males... Finally, ya should make it so us S'kra can join the various clans as a post title, I think someone said this before though. Thanks for reading. Derocius, S'kra Ranga Reply |
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>Secondly, why must all s'kra have slender tails? why must all elves have the same sized pointed ears? Why not has a male s'kra with a thick, strong tail, and a female with the slender tail?*dodges feminists*. Hmmm... I had this crazy idea that S'Kra females were larger than S'Kra males <winks>... its probably pretty likely that I'm wrong, athough I seem to remeber one of the GM's saying, when the S'Kra racial pic came out, that the bigger S'Kra was a female. (Anyone else remember anything about that?) >And elves, I would think an elf womans ears would be more petite than a males... <winks> I dunno... some of those male elves have been described as being very effeminate... Marvelous ideas, and I think Damissak or one of the GMs hinted at someday being able to specify the size of features like tails. But, and bear with me for a moment, what if GM Ellerina stated that Female S'Kra were bigger and stronger than male S'Kra? Somehow I doubt you would like being pidgeonholed into having a delicate tail and slender ankles. That would probably go against your RP as a tough S'Kra ranga. (just guessing, who knows.) You would probably like to be able to stick with your RP and your image of your S'Kra, that he's strong and thick-tailed for a male. So yes, it would be a great thing to have a little diversity with our features... but lets not pidgeonhole everyone without a care to how they RP their character. <grins> *Slash & Snap* Reply |
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S'kra females are larger than males, yes. (But don't ever use that picture as a reference for anything) Toren Sunreign-Jade-Stone, S'kra Gopher Reply |
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Ya, I know S'kra females are bigger than males, but that has nothing to do with tail size. Bigger can be in the waist, and height, while males are slightly stockier and more muscle. *Grins* And who says I dun wanna be smaller then a woman. *winks* I shall say no more.
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<<For what I've seen, Prydaen's Guru or GM or whatever they title themselves as, has be quite generous with the Cats.>> I will not flame. I will not flame. I will not flame. Our Prydaen Racial Champions rule. 'nuff said. ~Ternith Reply |
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My viewpoint: I personally think that every race with the exception of humans and elves should stick to their own race, especially Prydaens and S'Kra; even the human/elf couple seems like a bad idea to me, since the human will be dead long-before the elven partner even begins to grow physically old. A Dwarf and elf, human, or Gor'Tog (or any given combination of that sorts) doesn't occur to me as being compatible at all, but it can and has happened. After all, the GM's make the game, but the players are the ones who control their characters. As far as the interracial offspring thing goes, the concept that a birthing beween a human and elf creates child of either human or elven race just sounds like GM laziness in creativity to me. Of course, I can see where it makes partial since, since players aren't able to select mixed-raced characters in the character manager (should they want to roleplay the child of a couple), but that's not enough of a reason to me. It seems as if one parent serves as a virus to produce his/her offspring and the other parent is a host of sorts to in which he/she assists in producing the host's offspring, instead of a child with mixed traits from both races (which I think is how it should go). But that's just my theory. Reply |
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If they did that, then there would be some really ugly Tog/Gnome people.. *shivers* I still cannot figure out how the hell they can consemate....
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<<If they did that, then there would be some really ugly Tog/Gnome people.. *shivers* I still cannot figure out how the hell they can consemate....>> I think I've got part of it figured out, but it has to do with a rumour I heard about male Gor'Togs. Which is really funny because Halfling men... nevermind. Reply |
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>> I will not flame. I will not flame. I will not flame. >> Our Prydaen Racial Champions rule. 'nuff said. Hee! >> For what I've seen, Prydaen's Guru or GM or whatever they title themselves as, has be quite generous with the Cats. Is that "has to be" or "have/has been"? Just curious. (No, I'm not knocking typos, just wanting to know the correct meaning.) <wanders back to a vacation> Chisoni Reply |
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Has been, sorry, I type to fast for my own good.
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>> Has been, sorry, I type to fast for my own good. Okay! :) Just checking. Chisoni Reply |
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Get back on vacation Chisoni. That's an order.... Geez, ya think when they say they going away to rest, they'll actually do it.... ***Thwap*** Ecoles Reply |
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Two things: If a human set to common is in a room with a fellow human set to gamgweth does the human set to common understand the gamgweth? Will it ever be possible to learn languages that aren't your race's? I think bards would like the beauty of the Elven language. Thanks. Opieus Tuer ~ Human Warrior Mage Reply |
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>> Get back on vacation Chisoni. That's an order.... But but but, I was bored! <whine> :P Okay okay, I'll try and actually vacation on my vacation, but I'm not making any promises. Chisoni Reply |
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Well Chisone, FFX comes out in 4 days.... We'll not be seeing you much then, so I guess anything we gets right now is good stuff. Ecoles Reply |
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<<If a human set to common is in a room with a fellow human set to gamgweth does the human set to common understand the gamgweth??>> Yes, the setting is only to determine what language the character will be speaking. Reply |
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bards have been wanting EVERY language!!! the ability to learn them only, not simply have them by the good grace of silvyrfrost (her only grace is in the way she walks...also the only reason the men in the guild listen to her...and half the women) Jaebom --i'd personally go for elothean first, i know this cute little empath... Reply |
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What about.... for every 100 ranks of scholarship you get to learn an additional language? Except for Bards, who could learn an additional one every 50 ranks of scholarship? Delg (not a bard, but knows a few) Reply |
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you are a friggin genious...and i'm o nly 7 ranks off a second language by that system Jaebom --s'kra with dreams of speaking ilithi, elothean, and prydaen so he's not left in the dark all the time Reply |
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Well, could always propose a system like this: Every 100 ranks for Lore primary Guilds. Every 150 ranks for Lore secondary and tertiary Guilds. Considering the only people I know with 150+ ranks of scholarship belonging to secondary/tert Guilds are in/around/over 70th circle, seems pretty reasonable to me. Loq Reply |
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Honestly, just about any guild can claim some right to learning a language earlier. Traders are exposed to more languages in their travels and dealing with clerks of many areas. MoonMages are scholors and with no combat requirments have the time to put into such studies. Clerics on missionary trips need to know the local language....ect, ect. I think the scholorship level for everyone should be around 50 or less....but that the process of learning the language be a long one, something like learning an intrument for non-bards. There would be alot of sputtering and such for awhile. Now, here's what I think would be cool. Choose one race that can teach others languages. And that of course would be Gnomes. We Gnomes are the smartest (alteast the best int bonus) and we have no language of our own...we share the Kaldar's. Here's the process... A Gnome learns a language (or all the languages) from either book studies or npc. They then can teach others. But, there's a limit to it. If the Gnome is teaching a Dwarf then the Gnome must switch to speaking the Dwarvan language and then teach the new language. Any Dwarf then can join the class. But only Dwarfs. It's alot easier to learn a language when its tought to you from your native tongue and not your second. That's just my idea. Brother Qaton. Reply |
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>I think the scholorship level for everyone should be around 50 or less....but that the process of learning the language be a long one, something like learning an intrument for non-bards. There would be alot of sputtering and such for awhile. >Now, here's what I think would be cool. Choose one race that can teach others languages. And that of course would be Gnomes. We Gnomes are the smartest (alteast the best int bonus) and we have no language of our own...we share the Kaldar's. >Here's the process... A Gnome learns a language (or all the languages) from either book studies or npc. They then can teach others. But, there's a limit to it. If the Gnome is teaching a Dwarf then the Gnome must switch to speaking the Dwarvan language and then teach the new language. Any Dwarf then can join the class. But only Dwarfs. It's alot easier to learn a language when its tought to you from your native tongue and not your second. Yeah! Everyone can learn all the languages!!!11 No... Dragonseal Reply |
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The req should be at least 100. 50's just a mere practioner of scholarship, and can be achieved really fast. Lore skills at 100 or more are actually mildly impressive. However, I just think the person that speaks the racial language would teach it, and they should have to have 100 teaching and 100 scholar or something like that. That way higher up people could speak a second language, but you wouldn't see too many with more than 3 languages known. (I've seen GMNPCs know multiple languages so it is possible from a system point of view). Toren Sunreign-Jade-Stone, S'kra Gopher who'd really like to learn Prydaenese and whose mate would probably like learning S'kra Mur. Reply |
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<<That way higher up people could speak a second language, but you wouldn't see too many with more than 3 languages known.>> Problem is, it's not that difficult to learn a third or fourth... or fifth language. It's the second that's the tricky one. Now, level of fluency could be an issue. Wondering if you had a Human speaking Haakish... > Delgareth says in accented Haakish, "Welcome, friend." Reply |
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only problem with giving the ability to gnomes only: almost no bardic gnomes. the problem here is that bards would lynch every gnome they came across just to spite the person who put this into effect because bards have been wanting the ability to learn and teach languages for years. i really don't wanna see anything like that given to a race that tends to be mostly empaths, moonies, and the odd barbarian, paladin, or cleric. you could argue that moonies and empaths are good teachers, but bards are supposed to be the best (despite the fact that the GMs ignored what they stated about our guild and seem to have made moonies better at all things scholarly when they aren't even lore primary!!) if ya ask me, i'd say give bonuses to learning to certain guilds like traders, moonies, and a bigger one to bards, and a huge bonus to teaching it to bards. this has nothin to do with me bein a bard, it just makes sence to me to give the supposedly best storytellers and teachers who're supposed to be very good scholars and who are very adept at things of a verbal and musical nature to be able to learn and teach languages with an ease that others would not possess. i'm not saying others should not possess these skills, just that bards would be better at it, sorta like a mage is better with magic than a bard, and a ranger is better at survival than a paladin. everyone's got that which they're best at, i think language learning and teaching would fall into what bards are best at. Jaebom --i still wanna learn elothean damnit!! Reply |
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OK, how about this... since Bards are suppose to be the record keepers/story tellers let them have the ability to understand multiple languages....not speak them. I know I can read and listen to alot more languages than I can actually speak. This would let them fullfill their roles as record keepers of cultures and not overdue it. This could also spur some to speak their native tongue more often if there could be a translator around. I know an Elothean bard that wouldn't mind knowing what all the little Gnomes around her are talking about sometimes. Reply |
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> you could argue that moonies and empaths are good teachers, but bards are supposed to be the best Actualy, they claim that empaths are supposed to be the best teachers in elanthia. We have the highest teaching req and are lore primary. Technicaly, we're supposed to be the ultimate scholars, though we really should be considered a magic prime guild. Personaly, I'd be really ticked to see anyone who wasn't prydaen speaking and understanding prydaenese perfectly. I'd rather see anyone who wasn't natively that race only be able to get a poor grasp of the language at best. Like hear the words, but mangled up a bit and thus hard to read and understand. -Kitrinx Reply |
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where's it said that empaths are the best teachers? seems i missed that somewhere. though i've heard it many times that bards are supposed to fit that bill. as for the jumbling of languages to non-native speakers, i know many people who have learned 4 or 5 other languages fluently or nearly so, and i know there are others out there who know more than that. i see nothing wrong with learning a couple extra languages fluently, or at least being able to understand with few problems, even if your speaking of the language isn't the greatest. Jaebom --i will not settle for mediocre understanding if i can learn a language, IC or OOC Reply |
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Ooookay. Once again. 100 ranks of scholarship to learn a new language for Lore primary Guilds (Empaths, Bards, Traders). 150 ranks for secondary & tertiary guilds. Your Charisma modifies how well you SPEAK foreign languages. Intelligence determines how well you understand (hear) foreign languages. Toren's idea for the ability to teach the language is a good one. The teacher has to have 100 teaching and scholarship, speak the language as a native and the class takes about an hour (non-stop). A non-native teacher needs 150 teaching and scholarship. Loq Reply |
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How about we have something in the game which is specific to the individual races, instead?Something like.... languages. Personally, I do not want people to be learning specific languages other than the languages they are born with. Michael, aka Humm "Proud Ears" Breaux Reply |
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yet you don't object to a common language? obviously you've never been the only s'kra in a room fulla elvens and prydaen all speaking their own languages between each other. it's honestly quite annoying, especially for us bards who aren't elven or prydaen...roughly a third of the guild is elven and another third is prydaen. and what about when you're married to someone of another race and they're in a conversation with people of their own race? the sheer annoyance of these things is honestly unessessary. there's nothing IC to prevent someone from speaking another language other than the lack of game mechanics, and maybe severe difficulty pronouncing the words (i'd assume s'kra would be difficult for other races to speak, as would rakash and prydaen due to anatomical reasons). i, as well as MANY other people, have wanted the ability to learn new languages for years, and game mechanics already support speaking more than just 2 languages, as several GMPCs have demonstrated in the past. there are those who wish to roleplay being raised by another race, and the inability to learn the language of that race is a serious hobble to their roleplaying. Jaebom --why does it seem only the prydaen object to this? are they that worried that we'll learn what they're saying about us? Reply |
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>almost no bardic gnomes Gnome bards are the best... Reply |
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>there's nothing IC to prevent someone from speaking another language other than the lack of game mechanics Isn't that the very reason the langu | |||||||||||